Horses in the den (21 novembre)

Un élement de l'incurssion du clan Hell's Horses contre les Ghost Bears (17 nov 3063 - 18 mai 3064)


Planet Goito, Ghost Bear Dominion
Nov 28, 3063

"Attention, peoples of Goito. This is Star Colonel Tammy Delvillar of the 45th Mechanized Strike Cluster, Gamma Galaxy of Clan Hell's Horses. By the will of Malavai Fletcher, our Khan, we will remove the stain of the Bears on this world. With what pitiful forces should you make us lose our time, surat?"

"I, Star Colonel Lars Bazso of the 63rd Provisional Galaxy Cluster of Kappa Galaxy, will protect these clan workers for Dezgra pirates like yourselves, I bid my whole cluster on this."

"Then waste your whole unit, fool. Bargained well and done."







Ok. Comme j'ai écrit avant, c'est une bataille trinary vs trinary (1 trinary = 3 stars)

- Les Horses et Bears sont tout les 2 fort en Elementaux, En utiliser aurait du sens.
- L'unité Ghost Bear est seconde ligne, donc peux d'omni
- Les Horses utilises des vehicules meme dans les unités d'élite. Il faudrait en avoir quelques uns (2 vee = 1 Mech)
- Prenez les tables des Field Manual: Warden clans, Crusader Clans et update pour
monter les unités. Les pilotes sont tous Veterans avec 25% Elite.

dites moi cette fin de semaine qui fait quoi et avec quel moyen. Je preparerai la paperasse

Je prend le commandement des Ghostbears.

si ya des objections, vous les ferez connaitre dans le cercle des égaux.

Les Ghostbear respecterons le Zellbringen.

Voyons voir si les poney flambé pourrons en faire autant.

Un rappel de me donner vos forces pour que je finalise la paperasse et decide finalement du terrain et des conditions.

dites moi aussi si la fin de semaine prochaine est toujour corrrecte pour se rencontrer.

A moin d'installer HeavyMetal au bureau, je n'ai pas la possibilite de vous imprimer vos forces moi-meme en semaine. (VInce pourrais toujours me contredire la dessus )

honnetement, tu peux prende le listing que tu veux. personellent j'ai pas de preference pour faire un listing.

monte nous deux force balance et on joura ca.

assure toi juste de me mettre un Kodiak du cote des bear

pour la premiere partie .. je suis du même avis que Noirfatal ... monte des forces balancé.

un commander va pas envoyer des unité de combat innadéquate pour un terrain ... il va dabord étudier le terrain d'engagement, prévoire les mauvais coups... et dégradé les incompétants. (c'est aussi a dire que les dites variantes d'omni mech vont etre choisi a la dernière minute en voyant sur quel terrain... d'ou la force de l'omni)

Zellbrigen - Clan Rules of Engagement

The rules of engagement, or “Zellbrigen”, are the standards of honor embraced by all Clan Warriors that regulate and ritualize duels. This system originated as a method of combat devised by Nicolas Kerensky after the Exodus from Terra to minimize the loss of valuable equipment and human lives in battles. The following are some general rules of engagement that pertains single combat between BattleMechs:

A Warrior should never fire on a 'Mech already engaged with another opponent. Concentrating firepower from multiple opponents provides and unfair advantage to the aggressor. If a Star of ‘Mechs comes upon a single opponent only one point of the star will engage in combat while the other 4 watch. Should the attacker choose to fire upon one of the “observing” ‘Mechs it may join the fray as well.

A Warrior will at no time initiate physical attacks of any manner, unless he or she has no weapons left at his or her disposal. Physical attacks include, but are not limited to “death from above”, charging, punching, kicking, clubbing or pushing.

MechWarriors may not fire on a retreating 'Mech or one that has been granted hegira.

A warrior will never willingly flee the field if it is engaged in a duel. Even when a request for Hegira is denied a warrior shall not flea from the battlefield.


Firing on a fallen 'Mech is prohibited. Opponents must be allowed to regain their footing prior to reengaging in fire. If an opponent fires from a prone position it may be fired upon.


Firing on a ‘Mech that is shutdown prior to the initiation of combat or when in a non-aggressive manner. ‘Mechs that have shutdown due to excessive heat during combat may or may not be fired upon at the pilot’s discretion.

Firing at the rear of a 'Mech prior to a formal declaration and the initiation of combat is prohibited. If the opponent exposes his or her back during combat the opportunity may be seized upon.


Specifically targeting the head of a 'Mech is strictly prohibited.

The use of indirect fire other than artillery weapons targeting a fixed installation/target is prohibited.

Accidental skids and falls that result in "physical attacks" are not a violation of Zellbrigen

Continuing to fire on a "destroyed" or disabled 'Mech with the intention of eliminating it's pilot is strictly prohibited and may be punishable by death.


Targeting a MechWarrior that has ejected from his 'Mech is strictly prohibited and may be punishable by death.

Once a duel has been initiated, neither opponent may intentionally move out of the line of site of his or her opponent. Doing so is considered underhanded. While in a duel if a warrior moves out of LOS of his opponent, he should make every effort return to the LOS the following movement phase. Moving into the rear arc, is still within LOS. While, this is a minor offense, any honor gained by victory through such tactics is often greatly reduced. (Moving into the rear arc of a 'Mech, is still within LOS).


While in a Duel a warrior may move out of the firing range of his weapons, but should make every effort return to a distance inside of the maximum firing range in the following movement phase.

The use of Battle armor as shields is prohibited. Battle Armor may be transported only by Omnimechs not engaged in a duel.

If an unengaged ‘Mech moves to block the path of an engaged ‘Mech, or to place an engaged ‘Mech in the radius of electronics or equipment effects a breach of honor occurs.



Failure to adhere to Zellbrigen during combat will cause loss of honor for a Warrior, as well as serious repercussions from his or her commanding officer. Most offenses will usually result in at least loss of rank. Other penalties may include reassignment, a transfer to a lower caste or even death.


In the event that an enemy fails to follow the defined rules of engagement, a warrior has the option to also disregard the standards of honorable combat. However, many Clan members will not lower themselves to the level of dishonor of their opponent and will continue to engage in honorable combat as long as physically possible. In the event that an enemy force as a whole is acting dishonorably, the commanding officer may call for a Grand Melee. Once declared the battlefield becomes a free for all and a warrior may then use any means at his or her disposal to defeat the enemy. When a unit breaks Zellbrigen, the effects are immediate, and a Grand Melee, or Dezgra may be called during the same phase.

To a true Clan Warrior, there is more to combat than simply terminating one’s enemy. Worthy opponents are often granted the right to “hegira”. Hegira allows an opponent who has proved his or herself to withdraw honorably from the field without further combat or cost. A warrior may offer Hegira to an disabled opponent or when deemed fitting, if it is refused termination of a disabled opponent is permitted. A "defeated" warrior may also ask for Hegira.

Should an enemy be clearly defeated the victor may deny Hegira and instead claim the pilot as a bondsman. Though technically a “prisoner of war”, a bondsman is bound by honor, not chains. They are considered members of the laborer caste unless the capturing Clan releases them or promotes them back to warrior status. Custom dictates that even Bloodnamed warriors captured in combat be held for a time as bondsmen. All bondsmen wear a woven bracelet called a bondcord. The base color of the bondcord indicates to which Clan the individual is now bound, and the striping indicates the capturing unit.

There are however exceptions to the Rules of Engagement:

Elementals & BattleArmor

While mechanized warriors, these units are not 'Mechs. As such they are not required to follow standard rules of Zellbrigen, but may do so if the controlling player wishes. If they choose to follow Zellbrigen, they are considered light 'Mechs for the purpose of choosing duels. If they choose not to follow Zellbrigen, then they are treated as standard infantry.

Since battle armor units typically train in "stars" of 5 units they may freely concentrate fire and engage in physical attacks against BattleMechs.

Battle Armor that is engaged in a duel can be shot at regardless of it’s proximity to other units. If it is loaded onto a transport (‘Mech or Vehicle) then the transport becomes a valid target until the Battle Armor leaves the transport.

Infantry

Considered the lowest of warriors. Infantry are free from the requirements of Zellbrigen. Few Clan units even field infantry. Those units that do are typically made up of "solohma" warriors. These are warriors that are either past their prime or have fallen from grace. They join such units in hopes of at least dying from an honorable death in combat.

They may fire on a 'Mech engaged in a duel.

Firing on infantry while in a duel is not a breach off Zellbrigen.

Physical attacks against infantry are allowed.


Mercenaries

Mercenaries do not fight for a worthy cause and are often labeled “dezgra”. Viewed as seeking combat only for material and monetary advancement, they are, by definition, without honor. As such they are undeserving of honor in battle. Hegira is almost never offered to mercenaries, and the right to use combined fire against a mercenary opponent is often embraced with little or no provocation.

Vehicles

For the most part vehicles operate in teams of 2 to 5. Unless a single vehicle offers a significant challenge, a MechWarrior is free to engage as many or as few opponents at a time as desired. Clan vehicle commanders maintain their own system of honor which generally prevents them from combining fire of their entire star against a single ‘Mech. They will engage in a manner that provides as a equal balance of force as possible. When choosing duels, vehicles will duel other vehicles 1 on 1, but will typically face ‘Mechs 2 on 1 (meaning 2 vehicles to 1 ‘Mech).

Vehicles do not fall under the clan rule’s concerning Physical attacks. A vehicle may execute a ram attack without breaking Zellbrigen. Additionally, physical attacks against a vehicle are not a violation of Zellbrigen.


Honor Levels

The levels of honor maintained by warriors typically fall into four categories. Commanding officers may designate the honor level his troops should engage in combat. When unspecified all warriors should strive to maintain the highest level of honor possible.

Honor Level 1

The Clan warrior upholds all rules of honor, irrelevant of the actions of the opposition. Physical attacks are banned. Clan warriors may not retreat from battle under any circumstances.

Honor Level 2

Enemy units who violate Zellbrigen may be fired upon by any unit on the field. A Clan warrior can make physical attacks only if that warrior’s opponent makes a physical attack against him first. Retreat is permissible only if opponents are using superior technology.

Honor Level 3

Zellbrigen applies, but if any opposing unit breaks the rules of Zellbrigen, all Clan units are free to fire at any target on the field. That is, the battle degenerates into a total free-or-all. Again, if any opponent make a physical attack, all Clansmen are free to make physical attacks. Retreat from enemy 'Mechs (of any level of technology) is permitted, but not from other vehicles or infantry.

Honor Level 4

Zellbrigen does not apply. Any unit may perform physical attacks without provocation. Clan warriors may retreat at will.

qc mech a écrit:
"I, Star Colonel Lars Bazso of the 63rd Provisional Galaxy Cluster of Kappa Galaxy, will protect these clan workers for Dezgra pirates like yourselves, I bid my whole cluster on this."

Noirfatale a écrit:
Les Ghostbear respecterons le Zellbringen.

Voyons voir si les poney flambé pourrons en faire autant.

... doit-on en conclure que les les ghost bear en traitant les honorables Hell's Horses avec un tel mépris vont vraiment adéré au Zellbrigen ou les considéré comme de vulgaires pirates? donc la véritable question... les Ghost bear adère a leur vision du zelbrigen... c'est a dire une version ou les ghost on une définition bien a eux du code de Kerensky?

"Attention, peoples of Goito. This is Star Colonel Tammy Delvillar of
the 45th Mechanized Strike Cluster, Gamma Galaxy of Clan Hell's Horses.
By the will of Malavai Fletcher, our Khan, we will remove the stain of
the Bears on this world. With what pitiful forces should you make us
lose our time, surat?"

si les poney etait honorrable ils oublierait pas de repeter tout ce qui a ete dit.

La voix de kerensky est la meme pour tout les clans mais il faut faire plus que simplement la repeter, il faut la vivre.

seul les wardens peuvent comprendre cela.

(PS: en passant Eric ca fait deux fois que l'on quote le zellbringen sur le fofo, c,est super long et comme tout le monde a le livre absolument inutile. enfin ca fait juste un texte super long a defiler pour arriver au suivant...)

https://boken.1fr1.net/battletech-f22/30-november-battletech-t69.htm

euh.. mon anglais est pas des plus fort... surat c'est quoi la traduction?

ya une bonne raison pourquoi j'ai mis le texte du zelbrigen ... ta version avait pas mentionné les véhicules ni les armures... ce qui change l'application ... et laisse trop de place a l'interprétation on the fly ... comme ca tout le monde est sur le même pied d'égalitée.

"Surat"
An epithet referring to a cute, monkey-like mammal native to the Clan Homeworlds that the lower Castes keep as pets.

En passant Jeff sera peut etre pas la samedi prochain, il doit verifier avec son frere si ils vont au summon parrental niveau 3...

Ok. J'arrange les forcesmais pas tout a fait ballancé

Prenez le niveaux d'honneur 2 en partant. Il y a une vendetta entre les 2 clans et Malavai est assez fou pour se foutre du Zell.(Il n'est pas la mais ses ordres tiennent pareille)


Jeff, avertis moi mercredi ou jeudi s.v.p. Je veux savoir si je reste ici ou non ce week-end.

Ok, j'ai reussi a parler avec mon frere et nous allons repondre au summon parental de cette fin de semaine. Donc je ne serais pas disponible.

Mais si vous voulez jouer a Btech ce n'est pas un probleme. Je ne vous en voudrais pas. Amusez-vous bien en fin de semaine.

Ok, alors je remet a la semaine suivante (21-22 nov.). Je prefaire avoir tout le monde pour faire une game qui pourrais continuer en campagne.



Je vous enverrai vos forces quand meme aujourd'hui ou demain pour y penser.

samedi le 21 - - - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Ca va etre ma fete lol

Quel meilleure fete qu'une bagarre entre amis

Bonsoir a tous

Pourriez vous me dire les mini clan que vous avez? Jàimerais savoir lesquelles je dois ramener dimanche (merci Vince pour ta liste )


n.b.: Je sais qu'il y a une liste plus loin mais je ne suis pas sur qu'elle soit a jour

coté clan pour moi c'est pas dure ; rien, nada, zitch, néan

je vais faire un listing de mon stock en debut de semaime prochain. Mais de memoire dans la liste j'ai 2 ryoken et 1 thunder stallion.

Ok, j'emmene la plupart de mes mini clan pour etre sur.

Ma liste de fig a ete mis dans le thread approprier si tu veux aller voir ce que j'ai.

Ok. Derniere confirmation pour ce weekend

PRESENT

present!

une chose me turlupine....

on est mercredi et personne a pas encore parlé de bouffe....

étrange...

ya des suggestions?

a part les alergie au lactose ya autre chose a savoir?

et on bois quoi avec ca?

et le dessert? lol le fait que ce soit ma fete a pas rapport avec ca bien sur mais si ca implique pas du gateau au fromage ca pourrait mal aller

allors yen a qui sont game d'essayer du poisson et des fruits de mer?

(PS: t'inquiete Qc je me porte volontaire pour manger ta pars de gateau au fromage et boire toute boisson alcolique qui pourrais mettre en danger ton integrite physique, apres tout ca sert a ca les amis non?)

des papilliote moi ca me plait comme idée

ok donc le plan -

on va avoir du poisson et/ou fruit de mer, des legume varié, des epices, du scotch et du vin blanc, du fromage et de la creme.

on va faire attention de separer les papillote lactose-free des autres on a un four et probable que le bbq est operationel.

donc comme le mexicain, vous monter vos papillote a votre gout, ensuite on fout le tout au four, on rajoute du riz et ou des pates et toc - a la bouffe!

donc si vous voulez emportez des truc fuzze lachez-vous lousse - ou si vous feelez chicken -

des contraine ou objections?